Yo! Carl, Read The Constitution!!!!
Dear Senator Levin,
I'd like to invite you to read the Constitution of the United States of America, as you made it apparent in your diatribe today that you haven't recently.
By uttering the words:
I'd like to invite you to read the Constitution of the United States of America, as you made it apparent in your diatribe today that you haven't recently.
By uttering the words:
"The habeas corpus language in this bill is as legally abusive of rights guaranteed in the Constitution as the actions at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo and secret prisons that were physically abusive of detainees,"
You've proven that you don't have a clue who the Constitution was written for.
For your benefit I'll post the preamble to The Constitution.We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Notice, Mr. Levin (along with Mr. Kennedy) that it doesn't say "for the terrorists in Iraq or Afghanistan", it does provide for a "common defense" which I'd guess probably does mean against terrorists, not a defense lawyer FOR them.
If you reread what you two said today after passing the detainee legislation from an objective standpoint, you'll understand why America hasn't trusted your party to provide for our defense of late.
Technorati Tags: Carl Levin, Ted Kennedy, Terrorism, Detainees, George Bush
posted by Crazy Politico at 9:11 PM
7Comments:
You can ignore the embarrassing Senator from my state (both of them actually). I just wish they would both go away.
Unfortunately the new legislation allows detention of U.S. citizens without pressing charges.
It is indeed a sad day for Habeas Corpus in the United States.
PT, when a "US Citizen" decides to wage war against his/her own country, they should be treated EXACTLY like those they've decided to fight with.
Barbie, There's a huge difference between torture, and what was done at Gitmo and/or Abu Grahib(sp??), which was less than I endured during initiations in the military. In fact, read a few books about POW's in Nam, and you might understand what torture is.
And if they are members of P.E.T.A. or Earth First! or some other "radicle" group, their Habeas Corpus rights should be suspended as well, right?
Absolutely not PT. There's a major difference between protesting, and being a jerk off here, as opposed to taking up arms in a foriegn country.
The idea that someone should go to war AGAINST the US, to try and destroy the US, then enjoy the fruits of the system he or she is avowed to destroy is a little strange, sorry.
I see your point. But, why then hasn't the legislation been drafted to exclude US citizens? And why has such a broad definition of what constitutes an enemy combatant been employed?
Protesters and activists could fall into the juristiction of this law, and that is what the "left" is so up in arms about.
Praguetwin, if this is the Habeas language that is such an issue, maybe the folks up in arms should read it:
`(e)(1) No court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider an application for a writ of habeas corpus filed by or on behalf of an alien detained by the United States who has been determined by the United States to have been properly detained as an enemy combatant or is awaiting such determination.
Notice the word ALIEN in that paragraph.
In other words, NON-Aliens (citizens) don't have to worry about it, now do they.
I'd suggest going on Thomas and looking up the bill, reading it, then deciding if the fuss is worth it, or more smoke and mirrors.
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