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Tuesday, December 20, 2005

Dem's Gearing Up Attacks for 2008

Over at "The Fix" Chris has a link to the DNC's talking points on many potential GOP candidates for President in 2008.

A couple of their memo's could have implications before 2008, specifically the one on John McCain, who has been a help to them of late. If he starts feeling like the Dem's are attacking him for thinking of running his cooperation level may drop considerably. That would hurt the Dem's in congress now, and running up to the election, when they'll need a couple of legislative victories to tout.

The same can be true of Chuck Hagel, who is more centrist than other possible candidates, and doesn't always agree with the president. If he were to quit being vocal about his opposition to some Bush initiatives it would remove a Democratic talking point of disunity.

While they have 11 potential candidates on the list, one notable exception is Condi Rice. While she has repeatedly said she isn't going to run, the draft Condi movement is fairly strong, and since she beats most Democrats in 1 on 1 polls, she could be a real threat. She's also a problem because one has to be careful how they attack her without sounding like Ted Rall.

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Blogger shoprat said...

Regardless of who the nominees of either party are you can expect anything short of bloodshed. Many of the '60s generation believed that they were an "annointed generation" that would lead America into utopia, and now they are running out of time and getting desperate. They thought they were well underway when they took over the Democratic Party, the Media, "mainline" churches, and much of our education establishment, but they failed to forsee the rise of the GOP, the new media, the religious right and alternative educations. Now their lifelong vision is dying before their eyes and they are desperate. They are being robbed of their rightful destiny.

9:21 AM  
Blogger Little Miss Chatterbox said...

Awesome post and "The Fix" was very intriguing. Only us political news junkies are paying attention to this stuff but it is interesting. IMHO McCain, Hagel and Pataki don't have a prayer for the Republican nomination since they are all RINO's. Also, some conservatives are singing Romney's praises but they need to be careful. I know someone who works in Massachusetts Republican politics. Romney tried to recruit her to help him with his conservative face and she couldn't in good conscience do it because she knows him well and says he is also a RINO.

11:49 AM  
Blogger Crazy Politico said...

SR, I think you are kind of on target with that. The problem with their theory is that every country that has tried their methods, from full communism to the "European Model" has proven that the tax rates to achieve it are too high to also provide a decent economy. Or the government control (communism) stifles it.

LMC, while I agree on a number of them being RINO's, the 2000/2004 elections showed, especially on the Dem's side, that appealing mostly to the base crowd of a party doesn't win. If it did Buchannon would have had two terms.

Feingold on the left, while appealing to the Sheehan crowd, will turn off a lot of middle of the road voters when his actual record in congress is exposed.

McCain, while he will turn off a bunch of hard core GOP voters, will appeal to a lot of moderate democrats.

A 100% right leaning republican has as little a chance of winning in '08 as a liberal like Feingold.

9:21 PM  
Blogger Little Miss Chatterbox said...

Crazy: I will have to respectfully disagree with you on that. Bush won because of conservatives. I worked my tail off volunteering for Bush. I wouldn't lift a finger to campaign for McCain if he got the nomination. It is all about firing up your base and getting them motivated. RINO's don't do that. To quote Rush: "Conservatism works everytime it's tried." No one was excited about Bush Sr. or Dole because they were too moderate. And those moderate wishy washy middle of the roaders don't campaign for candidates and many times they don't even vote.

11:03 PM  
Blogger Chi-town Packa Backa said...

I'd like to see, personally, what would happen if Condy got the nod in '08. I imagine that might create some tough questions for some Libs. "Do we vote for our guy? or this African American Female?"

I wonder what it would be like in the Primaries with a three-way rush between Condy, McCain, and Rudy G.

11:46 PM  
Blogger Crazy Politico said...

LMC, I do understand the "need for the base". As in elections past, while they may not put the effort into helping McCain, come the 1st Tuesday in Nov, given the choice between him and (Name a Dem) most will vote for McCain.

Chi-Town: Every poll shows Condi in 2nd behind McCain in a GOP Primary.

7:14 AM  
Blogger shoprat said...

That election is still 2 years away, and the polls can, and probably will change a lot.

7:40 AM  
Blogger Crazy Politico said...

SR, I agree with you on that. Especially if it looks like Rice might actually run. Dem's will start doing what ever they can to smear her. As National Security Advisor when the "domestic spying" flap was begun, that will be their major weapon. (My guess)

9:59 AM  

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