Fox Video On Pedophile Blog
The Pedophile blogs that were mentioned on here yesterday, and at numerous other blogs, were mentioned on Dayside today on Fox today, with Stacy Harp talking about the issue. The video is up at Fox News, it's about a 4 minute piece.
Suzie at Assorted Babble has more up along with a lot of links to blogs who are trying to get Google / Blogger to pull the plug on these folks.
Jay at Stop the ACLU, chimes in with more contact info for Google, and agencies that might be interested in shutting these folks down and even more links of people who aren't impressed.
A commenter calling himself Freedom is confused about what's going on here. It's not "thought police" or the right wing Taliban of the US trying to shut these folks down, it's just regular people, of all stripes.
The fact is, while the courts may have held these types of people's speech up as "protected", that's from government interference, not from the masses. If he needs some help figuring it out, Rae Ann has a nice run down of what is and isn't protected speech.
If the folks who run these blogs wish to communicate, get a private, paid website, require passwords to enter, and have members. That way some kid reading my blog, then clicking the "next blog" button at the top won't accidently end up reading your stuff. It's not that tough to do, and there are hundreds of webhosting sites that would allow you to do it.
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Suzie at Assorted Babble has more up along with a lot of links to blogs who are trying to get Google / Blogger to pull the plug on these folks.
Jay at Stop the ACLU, chimes in with more contact info for Google, and agencies that might be interested in shutting these folks down and even more links of people who aren't impressed.
A commenter calling himself Freedom is confused about what's going on here. It's not "thought police" or the right wing Taliban of the US trying to shut these folks down, it's just regular people, of all stripes.
The fact is, while the courts may have held these types of people's speech up as "protected", that's from government interference, not from the masses. If he needs some help figuring it out, Rae Ann has a nice run down of what is and isn't protected speech.
If the folks who run these blogs wish to communicate, get a private, paid website, require passwords to enter, and have members. That way some kid reading my blog, then clicking the "next blog" button at the top won't accidently end up reading your stuff. It's not that tough to do, and there are hundreds of webhosting sites that would allow you to do it.
Technorati Tags: blogger, pedophiles Google, Fox News, free speech
posted by Crazy Politico at 3:52 PM
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There was a book published a few years ago called something like Unsafe For Children or something like that, which argued that laws against adults having sex with children were wrong because it was capable of being a normal healthy relationship. It was written by some proffesor either from the University of Minnesota or Stanford. There were books written from each of these schools, one dealing with pedophiles and the other with bestiality, but they said essentially the same thing. I fear that the floodgates have just opened. I am trying to find links to these two books so I can comment on my own blog.
I hate to say it, but this guy has some good points. I will also say I do not appreciate the fact that these MAMBLA sickos can be stumbled across by children, or by the easily offended, but has anybody considered that parental firewalls, much like the ones found on cable TV can be implemented to help control content?
You are in the military. If you've ever been deployed, you'd know firsthand how effective firewalls can be - you can't even do certain google searches, much less pull anything in with adult content.
I am somewhere in the middle on this one. I abhor their message, but I love free speech. I think people are always too quick to demand censorship at the community levels when censorship at the household levels should suffice, unless a crime has been committed, or is being pitched to the public to be committed. I haven't taken the time to visit one of these sicko sites, and I won't, but who needs to if what Freedom says is true:
That the main theme of the sicko blog in question is to question the law, and to incite people to lawfully overturn the law -
That the sicko blog in question does not incent people to break current laws -
That the sicko blog in question does not cross the lines of violating any current laws -
If all of the above are true, then the blogger should be allowed to continue blogging his sick crap. Just because the blogging community as a whole disagrees with the message wouldn't constitute a valid reason to make what he's doing illegal.
I agree that Google has a right to forbid this sort of speech on it's servers, but what is next in line for this sicko, when he just gets his own server and hosts his own blog on it? Go after everybody who does biz within his backbone? What next when he buys and provides his own backbone and his speech is quoted by others on the Internet? There is no stopping it in the end unless you make his grotesque speech "illegal". And you shouldn't.
I find far right neocon speech offensive, I really do. Anybody who reads my blog would know that by now. And I can promise you that when I have children, I will take the responsibility as a parent to safeguard them from reading far right neocon commentary (and socialist and communist propaganda also) as well as this MAMBLA crap by implementing a secure firewall system in my household. Just like I will do the same with adult content on my DishNetwork account, too.
If this is a town, and the bloggosphere IS a community - the sicko blogger would just be the raving lunatic down the street who everybody stays away from and keeps their kids away from. We don't press our community leaders to make it illegal for the dude to be a KOOK, we just ignore him, and when/if he breaks the law, we call the cops.
We bloggers really need to stick together with this "free speech" thing. If we outlaw this sicko, we are next.
Just my 2 (or rather, 10,000) cents.
Blog ON, bro... great topic, btw!
Thanks so much for posting the link to the video. I had really wanted to see her interview but didn't find out about it until after it was over.
How did you figure out how to get the exact video link?
I did a post on this also and linked to both of your posts.
LMC, glad you liked the video. I found the exact link on their "technology page", dumb luck I guess.
GTL, it's consumerism at it's best. While I understand his concern and issue, the idea that his freedom of expression is more important than others is wrong. He's expressing himself through his posting, other are doing it through actions with Google. His right to say something in no way overrides others to be offended by it, and let that be known. It's how consumers have gotten TV shows saved and cancelled, product marketing changed,etc.
I go back to my liability issue for Google again, also. Since he obviously is advocating illegal behavorior (through his code of "ethics"), what happens if he or one of his partners on the blog does molest a young boy? Could the parents hold Google liable for not turning him over to the authorities?
Thank you Bob, I so much appreciate you carrying this subject beyond one post. That was great you were able to get the video so quickly and pass the link along. As far as I am concerned, if we save a child all this is worth it. That blog is connected to chatrooms and child porn....and no matter what they said it is nothing but spin trying to justify their illegal behavior.
Thanks again, I will take this link and put it on my UPDATE.
Appreciate all your efforts.
Freedom, on "what if". OJ was found not guilty by a jury of his peers, but still sued for the death of his ex to the tune of $33 million. Guilty and innocent have nothing to do with civil lawsuits, nor does common sense. Ask McDonalds about coffee for another example. Mitigating risk for one's company on an emotional issue is a good business practice.
On free speech, I guess you didn't read my post. I have no desire to muzzle him. I'd just rather he put his blog behind a login. Get a paid service, put up a "The material herein may be offensive to some" warning page, and type away.
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