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Tuesday, April 11, 2006

Keep Blurring The Lines

As I was reading the extensive coverage of the rallies yesterday to legalize the 11 million ILLEGAL immigrants in the US, I caught this line that really kind of ticked me off:

"How do you tell the children of undocumented workers who are fighting in Iraq that we're going to deport your parents and your grandparents?"

I guess you tell them their parents and grandparents should have come here legally so it wouldn't be an issue.

What the above question really reminds me is that our citizenship requirements need to be tightened up with any immigration reform. Unfortunately it's not part of the current debate in Washington. We are the only country I know of that grants citizenship to the children of illegals. (Someone please let me know if I'm wrong on this).

Scare tactics are one of the other things that have been used a lot in the recent debate on this. Churches and other non-governmental social services providers have been harping that the House legislation would make it illegal for them to provide any kind of help to illegals. The truth is, it's already illegal, has been for years, and hasn't been enforced. The key to the current House Bill is the word "verified" along with illegal immigrant. It doesn't require anyone to ask to verify, just as the current law doesn't.

While some commentators, like Eugene Robinson, will try to paint folks who don't like the idea of unfettered illegal immigration as xenophobes without using the word; they too miss the point.
It's not that we are afraid for our culture, don't want hispanics around, or any of the other crap. Folks just want a secure border, and people who do come here to do it legally.

We've been down this amnesty road before. In 1986 Reagan got reforms passed that were going to make it unprofitable to hire illegals, along with legalizing 2.7 million already in the country. It didn't work, the expansion of it didn't work in 1994, 1997, and 2000. Instead the amnesty programs draw more illegals to the US, in hopes, as we see now, that another amnesty program is just around the corner.

That's why so many folks want to see enforcement, not just a blanket amnesty and back to business as usual. That's why many don't care if it costs businesses money to verify their employees have a legal status, or if it seems "mean spirited" to kick people out.

Commentators, the media, churches, and immigrants rights groups can continue to blur the lines, but Congress will find out in November what the majority of voting American's wanted to happen on this if they screw it up.

Frequent commenter Ablur has an outstanding post about why so many folks are ticked off about the issue. Check it out here.

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Blogger PlaidBaron said...

Regarding the person who said "How do you tell the children of undocumented workers who are fighting in Iraq that we're going to deport your parents and your grandparents?".

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you automaticly become a U.S citizen if you have a child born here. So why would they be deporting them.

4:05 PM  
Blogger Crazy Politico said...

No Plaidbaron, the child is automatically a citizen, not the parent. However, we won't deport the parent of a minor citizen, and they can apply for naturalization based on the relative.

That being said, there should be no reason a legal US citizen in the military would have their parents deported for being illegal. And, considering they would have to be 18, the parents missed at least 4 previous chances at amnesty!

4:24 PM  
Blogger rachel said...

Speaking of scare tactics, everyone I saw interviewed on the local news that was marching in Phoenix yesterday sounded like someone had convinced them that the aim was to deport all the immgrants. Legal, illegal... all of them. No better way to motivate the masses.

Very interesting article here that says:

"Provisions in past bills that have given amnesty to illegal aliens have been used by at least five terrorists to stay in the U.S. while planning or committing deadly attacks, a fact that critics say proves their contention that the "path to earned citizenship" in immigration bills now before the Senate constitutes a security risk."


"Five cases are cited -- three of the 1993 World Trade Center bombers; one of the men involved in the related terror plot aimed that year at New York landmarks; and Mir Aimal Kasi, the Pakistani who killed two CIA employees in a 1993 shooting outside the agency's Langley headquarters."

7:59 PM  
Blogger Little Miss Chatterbox said...

"I guess you tell them their parents and grandparents should have come here legally so it wouldn't be an issue."

Well said!!!

8:27 PM  
Blogger Crazy Politico said...

Rachel, you probably won't hear many folks (on the pro-amnesty side) talking about terrorists who were allowed to stay in.

BTW, the link didn't come through for some reason.

LMC- following the law does make things much easier, doesn't it :)

8:31 PM  
Blogger rachel said...

I blame my sudden loss of HTML skills on a lousy day at work. Actually, it looks like a plain old brain cramp on my part.

How's this?

9:26 PM  
Blogger ablur said...

Why must everything be reduced to a emotional plea of microscopic proportion to the problem. I would be shocked if this is 1 in a million.
In any cause there can usually be found about 5% of validity that will be hoisted to the front as if it was the majority. We see this clearly demonstrated in the rape/incest argument for abortion. The ironic twist comes when you offer them the exemption.

If you truly respect and desire to be citizens of this nation then obey our laws.

Thanks for the recognition and the link. I am looking for ways to make this point as clear as possible.

10:44 PM  
Blogger Crazy Politico said...

Emotional pleas resonate easiers, and with less explaination that logic or the truth.

3:56 AM  
Blogger ablur said...

Since we no longer teach critical thinking skills in school and focus on making our children feel good about their education, it is no wonder the masses are so easily manipulated.

9:00 AM  

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