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Wednesday, December 28, 2005

More on Domestic Spying

I know this subject is getting old to folks, but something I saw on the Chicago news really ticked me off the other night.

The press has been widely reporting the that the US has been watching, in it's domestic survellience program, Muslim groups a little closer than some other groups. While I was home with the family, I was watching the news, and a local (Chicago) Islamic leader was on complaining about the fact that the "war on terror" is in many ways becoming a war on Islam.

Well, EXCUUUUUUSSSSE MEEEEE!, in the words of John Belushi Steve Martin from years gone by, but what does he expect. Off the top of my head I could think of 21 reasons for that. 19 hijackers, Bin Laden and Zarqawi.

But, it doesn't take much looking to find more reasons. Just look here. There is a "Toll of Terrorism" website, with a chronology of terrorist attacks against the US. I've highlighted the one's that were confirmed, or suspected of being conducted by muslim extremists.

September 11, 2001 - Terrorists hijack four U.S. commercial airliners taking off from various locations in the United States in a coordinated suicide attack. In separate attacks, two of the airliners crash into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, NY which catch fire and eventually collapse. A third airliner crashes into the Pentagon in Washington, DC, causing extensive damage. The fourth airliner, also believed to be heading towards Washington, DC, crashes outside Shanksville, PA, killing all 45 people on board. Casualty estimates from New York put the possible death toll close to 3,000, while 189 people have been lost at the Pentagon crash site.

October 12, 2000 - A terrorist bomb damages the destroyer USS Cole in the port of Aden, Yemen, killing 17 sailors and injuring 39.

August 7, 1998 - Terrorist bombs destroy the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. In Nairobi, 12 Americans are among the 212 killed, and over 5,000 are wounded, including 6 Americans. In Dar es Salaam, one U.S. citizen is wounded among the 11 killed and 72 injured.

June 21, 1998 - Rocket-propelled grenades explode near the U.S. embassy in Beirut.

July 27, 1996 - A pipe bomb explodes during the Olympic games in Atlanta, killing one person and wounding 111.

June 25, 1996 - A bomb aboard a fuel truck explodes outside a U.S. Air Force installation in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. The bomb killed 19 U.S. military personnel in the Khobar Towers housing facility, and wounded 515, including 240 Americans.

November 13, 1995 - A car bomb in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia kills 7 people, 5 of them American military and civilian advisers for National Guard training. The "Tigers of the Gulf," "Islamist Movement for Change," and "Fighting Advocates of God" claim responsibility.

April 19, 1995 - A car bomb destroys the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people and wounding over 600.

February. 1993 - A bomb in a van explodes in the underground parking garage in New York's World Trade Center, killing 6 people and wounding 1,042.

December 21, 1988 - A bomb destroys Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland. All 259 people aboard the Boeing 747 are killed including 189 Americans, as are 11 people on the ground.

April 1986 - An explosion damages a TWA flight as it prepares to land in Athens, Greece. Four people are killed when they are sucked out of the aircraft.

April 1986 - A bomb destroys a West Berlin disco frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing one American and one German woman and wounding 150, including 44 Americans.

December 1985 - Simultaneous suicide attacks are carried out against U.S. and Israeli check-in desks at Rome and Vienna international airports. The two attacks killed 20 people, including 4 terrorists.

November 1985 - Hijackers aboard an Egyptair flight kill one American. Egyptian commandos later storm the aircraft on the isle of Malta, and 60 people are killed.

October 1985 - Palestinian terrorists hijack the cruise liner Achille Lauro (in response to the Israeli attack on PLO headquarters in Tunisia). Leon Klinghoffer, an elderly, wheelchair-bound American, is killed and thrown overboard.

August 1985 - A car bomb at a U.S. military base in Frankfurt, Germany kills 2 and injures 20. A U.S. soldier murdered for his identity papers is found a day after the explosion.

June 1985 - A TWA airliner is hijacked over the Mediterranean, the start of a two-week hostage ordeal. The last 39 passengers are eventually released in Damascus after being held in various locations in Beirut.

June 1985 - In San Salvador, El Salvador, 13 people are killed in a machine gun attack at an outdoor café, including 4 U.S. Marines and 2 American businessmen.

April 1985 - A bomb explodes in a restaurant near a U.S. air base in Madrid, Spain, killing 18, all Spaniards, and wounding 82, including 15 Americans.

November 1984 - A bomb attack on the U.S. embassy in Bogota, Colombia kills a passer-by. The attack was preceded by death threats against U.S. officials by drug traffickers.

October 1983 - A suicide car bomb attack against the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut kills 241 servicemen. A simultaneous attack on a French base kills 58 paratroopers.

April 1983 - A suicide car bombing against the U.S. embassy in Beirut kills 63, including 17 Americans.

So, by looking at the list, we see that 75% of the terrorist attacks targeting American's in the last 22 years were carried out by muslim extremists. So when the Iman is next on TV, I'd like the talking heads to ask him, "Should we be targeting protestants, who aren't carrying out these attacks?"

Politechnical has some info on exactly what the NSA has been gathering, and what it's been used for. Interesting stuff....

David Ignatius at the Wasthington Post has a good editorial on this also.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

You pegged it again. What can I say but, "yup".

This message brought to you by the religion of peace.

7:53 PM  
Blogger shoprat said...

Well gee, maybe it's Joooos dressed up in Islamic garb or Karl Rove's agents dressed up like poor peaceful Moslems.

You will never convince certain people that militant Islam is the enemy.

Funny thing is that politically active Christian Fundamentalists, who would never kill an innocent, are considered dangerous militants to these people while real murderous militants are ignored.

8:11 PM  
Blogger asacan said...

I still need convincing that John Doe #2 in the Oklahoma City bombing wasn't Jose Padilla, a.k.a. Abdullah al-Muhajir. I mean, it's an uncanny resemblance. So, as conspiracy theories go, I would gander that al-Qaeda was somehow involved in that one, perhaps only with assisting in the planning. But I could be wrong, I've been wrong before...but we may never know.

9:02 PM  
Blogger Steven Tucker said...

Here's a good link to an Ann Coulter article: http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/anncoulter/2005/12/21/180063.html

I think the media is coming at this all backwards.

5:07 AM  
Blogger Paula said...

Never fear, I'm here to address the most important point of your poastie: wasn't Steve Martin the excuse-me guy?

7:23 AM  
Blogger Robosquirrel said...

You know, I remembered all of a sudden how much it pissed me off that many people think that 9/11/2001 was the only attack on Americans. I heard a guy call into Rush Limbaugh yesterday who asserted that very claim. What I have been saying and will continue to tell anyone who will listen, is that these people have been at war with us since 1948, but it took us until 2001 to figure it out.

Great post, CP, keep up the good work. Oh, by the way, Paula's right. And Shoprat, maybe when Karl Rove's done wagging the dog he can do something about this global warming thing. There wasn't any snow all Christmas!

9:02 AM  
Blogger shoprat said...

Aascan, you may be right, but it seems that all the information on that has been suppressed. I know people who think I am nuts because I believe that somehow or other, Islamic militants were behind that bombing too.

Only Joseph Farrah ever seemed to take it seriously and, with his marginal credibility in many minds, it didn't go very far.

12:00 PM  
Blogger Crazy Politico said...

Paula, thanks, must be my old age catching up to me that I'm getting my 70's and 80's comedians mixed up.

SR- You have to keep it in perspective, WASP's are bad, anyone other must be good, unless they are Jews, in which case they are only good if you are talking bad about them.

S.T.- If the media came at this from the front, instead of bassackwards it would shoot their own credibility. So they will continue to blame everything on everyone except those responsible.

Robo- Thanks. As for when war was declared on us, those ads some folks have on their blogs bug me because they only count from 9/11. Good call on the global warming, it's december and the temp is 57 degrees here. Must be a Rovian Plot.

Ascan/SR, I've never discounted that someone other than the two hicks could have been to blame for this. However, in the 24 hour news world, 2 in the coop is all the feds needed to make everyone think the world was safe again.

12:48 PM  
Blogger Griz said...

Amen, Brother!

7:05 PM  
Blogger DLW said...

Hey, Crazy.

I had a commentor give a link to a response to that study you mentioned over at my blog.

Here is the link.


7:15 PM  
Blogger Rebekah said...

Yeah, what did they expect? Roundups of peaceful Christians or Buddhists or Atheists or oh, Hadjis just to make it fair? Golly.

8:03 PM  
Blogger Crazy Politico said...

Yes, Rebekah, that's exactly what some would like because then it would be "fair".

8:51 PM  
Blogger Little Miss Chatterbox said...

Great post!! I have done some research on the different terrorist attacks before 9-11 but I need to do more. The sad thing is I didn't even know who Osama Bin Laden was until 9-11.

2:20 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

How did you arrive at 75%? Because I thimnk the percentage is higher.

7:13 AM  
Blogger The_Bos'un said...

You are being conservative about 75%. The libs are not ready for the truth. You did a great job on this. Your timeline was most impressive. Bob, your site is not ranting. It is down right great journalist commentaries.

8:07 AM  
Blogger Matthew said...

I don't dispute that every terrorist who has struck us has so far been Muslim (except Tim McVeigh, whose motives were nonetheless similar to the Muslim terrorists--to destroy a government he found corrupt and repressive). However, many people in this country are blaming Islam for terrorism, rather than merely blaming evil men who utilize a corruption of Islam for evil purposes.

Think of it this way: no one blamed Christianity for Tim McVeigh's actions. People did blame Conservative talk radio, however, but that was as ridiclous as people today blaming Islam for terrorism.

Listen to Neal Boortz and Michael Savage some time, if you don't think there's a whole lot of hatred out there against "the peaceful religion of Islam," as Boortz snearingly calls it.

8:44 AM  
Blogger Crazy Politico said...

How'd I come up with the number? I used the attacks highlighted (carried out by muslims) minus the six that aren't highlighted (either not carried out by muslims or I'm not sure).

Matthew, the best answer is a quote sometimes:

Abdelrahman al-Rashid, the managing director of the satellite channel al-Arabiya, wrote: "It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims."

While folks don't seem to have a problem lumping most Christians in the US into the "religious right" in a rather demeaning way, they seem offended when we mention the "religion of peace" in a demeaning way.

9:48 AM  

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