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Tuesday, January 03, 2006

Abramoff Could Burn Many

Before Nancy begins her next diatribe on the culture of corruption in the GOP in conjunction with Jack Abramoff's plea deal today, she might want to see who else he's going to squeal on.

While you'd never know it from the Washington Post's story on the topic today, or Chris Cillizza's Fix, there are Democrats who received money from Abramoff, including Harry Reid the Senate Minority leader. Of course Harry, like Rep. Ney of Ohio claims he's innocent of wrong doing, but evidently the media only gives Reid the benefit of the doubt at this point.

Unless they are complete morons, guys with pockets as deep as Jack's very seldom play one side of the political field. The party you court one year could be out of power the next, and then you have much less influence.

One of the prosecutors interviewed this evening on the DC's ABC 7 news made the point that this could become the biggest politcal scandal ever, if that is the case, my guess is neither party is coming out clean. In a case like this one, being less dirty doesn't do your party a bit of good come election time, because the other side will kill you by association too.

So while it may be the biggest political scandal ever, it may hurt fewer politicians than many think, only because neither side can afford to start a war with Abramoff at the center of it.

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Blogger shoprat said...

With the left, the guilt of the Republicans and innocence of the Democrats is a given. They are still thinking they control the flow of information like they did 25 years ago and think they can still get away with it.

6:06 PM  
Blogger Little Miss Chatterbox said...

It will be interesting to see how it all pans out. I heard Rush talking about Reid today and it sounds like if others are going down he will also. And to be honest if there are Republicans that are involved in wrongdoing in this they shouldn't be re-elected.

6:21 PM  
Blogger Repack Rider said...

there are Democrats who received money from Abramoff, including Harry Reid the Senate Minority leader.

Incorrect. Let's dispense with the theme that he gave to Democrats, since it is not true. Abramoff was a Bush "Pioneer," which means he raised $100,000 for GWB. NONE, NADA, NIL, ZIP, ZERO of his contributions went to a Democrat, although some of his clients contributed to Democrats.

If there are Democrats on the take, let's burn them as badly as Ney, Delay, and all the rest of the GOPers who traveled with Abramoff on his dime, ate for free in his restaurant, attended games in his skybox, etc.

I wonder whether Bush's firing of the prosecutor who was going to make trouble for Abramoff for his crooked activities in the Marianas will have any repercussions.

We know that Abramoff gave $100,000 to Bush, and we know that the firing of the prosecutor helped Abramof immensely. Quid pro something?

6:21 PM  
Blogger rev. billy bob gisher ©2005 said...

er I commented on this one did blogger eat it?

6:44 PM  
Blogger Crazy Politico said...

From the December 14th Washington Post:

The senior Democrat on the Senate committee investigating former lobbyist Jack Abramoff announced this week that he will return $67,000 in donations from Indian tribes represented by the indicted Republican.

From the June 3rd Washington Post:

Among the biggest beneficiaries were Capitol Hill's most powerful Democrats, including Thomas A. Daschle (S.D.) and Harry M. Reid (Nev.), the top two Senate Democrats at the time, Richard A. Gephardt (Mo.), then-leader of the House Democrats, and the two lawmakers in charge of raising funds for their Democratic colleagues in both chambers, according to a Washington Post study. Reid succeeded Daschle as Democratic leader after Daschle lost his Senate seat last November.

From the December 19th Billings Gazette:

Montana Sen. Max Baucus, ranking Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee, is donating $18,892 he once received from Abramoff's clients and associates to seven tribal colleges in his state. The committee is part of a wide-ranging congressional investigation of Abramoff's activities.

From SF Gate on December 19th:

"..Democrat on the list, who took in $42,500, is Rep. Patrick Kennedy of Rhode Island, who sits on the House Appropriations Committee.."

Any other bubbles you'd like me to burst Repack?

6:57 PM  
Blogger Little Miss Chatterbox said...

Crazy: I love how you smoke libs. I'm calling you over to my blog the next time a lib goes into attack mode.

9:25 PM  
Blogger Crazy Politico said...

Actually, LMC, I smoke Winstons, Liberals are used for cannon fodder :)

Google is so cool, they could actually use it to find out if they are full of crap before they post, but refuse to.

9:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still love the writing CP and I am checking in on behalf of the one guy in the middle of Arizona who actually reads your posts. I don't 100% agree but then who does? How you can filter so much and not loose a grip I'll never know.

You need a smoker, some tools, and home brew. Hey, brew only takes a few hours a month so you can spend other quality time smoking meat or working in the garage. Ah, I'm looney tonight.

10:20 PM  
Blogger patrickafir said...

This will definitely shake up Washington. Heads will roll, as well they should. I don't care which side of the aisle you politick on—when we elect you and you abuse our trust, we just might catch you and send you to jail if appropriate.

10:28 PM  
Blogger monte said...

Can you say Bush impeachment?

10:57 PM  
Blogger Crazy Politico said...

Mark, it's easy, I occasionally go off the deep end, read Kos, and remember immediately why I am what I am :)

Patrickfir- You are correct. If they find someone was being bought, they should be hammered. Like Trafficant, the Abscam Folks, and Dirty Dan Rostenkowski. I don't care what party they are with, hammer them.

Monte, in a few languages. I can also say Barrett Report, which is why it won't happen. Do some research on it, you'll know what I mean.

3:39 AM  
Blogger THE THOMAS REPORT said...

So, I know the GOP won't get in any trouble and the dirty Jew will burn, but don't you think that this shit has to end. I know the Ivy League Christian men of Washignton (GOP) are above the law, but can't they get in some sort of trouble? Maybe a slap on the wrist? Something. All I know if a brother in S.E. DC is arrested for loitering, he goes to jail immediately. Guess it sux to be BLack huh? Anyway, white GOP leaders rule....just better get used to it!

8:22 AM  
Blogger THE THOMAS REPORT said...

Don't you people see? Thre Christian Conservative GOP, is above the law....just read this...

"The time has come that the American people know exactly what their Representatives are doing here in Washington. Are they feeding at the public trough, taking lobbyist-paid vacations, getting wined and dined by special interest groups?"
-Rep. Tom DeLay (R) Tx.

Soccer Mom's and Desperate Housewives will beleive anything.

8:26 AM  
Blogger Crazy Politico said...

Ivy League Christian Men....

John Kerry Yale, Catholic
Ted Kennedy, Havard, Catholic.
Bill Clinton Rhodes Scholar - Methodist.

Those are the guys you are talking about, right?

8:34 AM  
Blogger monte said...

I am sure the white GOP does rule. Just watch the news. But, that does not make them right...just more corrupt than most others. It is a shame that those in power now forget that they are going to be sick and old someday, and they will have to rely on others to care for them. The problem is that thiose who have to care for them might not like them much, because of how they may have treated them in the past. Just remember karma...you get what you deserve sooner or later. Can not wait to see Delay in prison whites, without the klan hood.

5:26 PM  
Blogger Crazy Politico said...

Monte, you have DeLay confused with Robert Byrd, congress's current Klansman

BTW, did you know that since the redistricting to help the "white GOP" Texas now has 3 more minority representatives in the US House?

Probably not, since the NY Times hasn't told you. Again, you should try google, it's a hoot.

5:40 PM  
Blogger Rebekah said...

Wow. That was a great post - as evidenced by the liberal loonies it brought out. The truth hurts. Keep givin' it to 'em!

5:49 PM  
Blogger monte said...

It will be great to see who is caught in this scandal. Let me see, chances are it will be mostly Bush's friends...like Dick C.

10:31 PM  

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